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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-05-20, 16:57

btw, it would be interesting to know what your plan is given the current situation:





The Army in the West is lost, Moskva is surrounded and to some extent occupied, the government is being dissolved, army units have begun standing down, no one is actually in power at the moment except a foreign military government trying to prevent a complete collapse of Russian society, the major portion of Russia's industrial and agricultural capacity has been captured, etc etc.

perhaps if it had been some months later, but this has happened in less than 24hrs, it seems extreme...

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-05-21, 04:33

My current plan is what I already told you.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-05-21, 15:30

yeah i know, i posted that before we had our little chat Very Happy

still, i think it's good to know the present situation

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-05-21, 15:32

Oh.

Well then, we're waiting for Red to make a very important post...
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 15:50

RED! GET YOUR LAZY ASS WRITING!

I wrote a little something, to keep the story going.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 15:53

btw, i've pretty much completely forgotten what the plan was...

Uralsk-Siberiya?

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 15:55

btw, wasn't it Uralskaya-Siberiya? not Uralstan, since the Urals aren't really a 'stan'...


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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 15:56

you told me Uralstan while drunk.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 15:56

btw, the plan is that you and sel sign the pact.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 15:56

i doubt it, anyways you should change it since Uralstan doesn't make sense, and it doesn't sound as good as Uralskaya

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 16:08

3 things:

and may pass between these nations freely.

no, that can't happen. if you mean something like the Schengen Agreement, then definitely not. Uralskoye-Siberiya is hardly a stable, secure, and sovereign state, we cannot allow for the possibility of terrorists entering into occupied Russia from a porous border with unoccupied Russia.

second, the territory ISN'T free from ALL conditions of the Joint Declaration, but is merely exempt from the military and economic provisions; the territorial claims of the Joint Declaration still apply.

thirdly, the 'Russian Federation' is under the control of the United Powers, and is not a sovereign independent state, at this point there is no government that may sign any type of treaty document. besides, this isn't a Pact, this is an agreement to save us the trouble of having to occupy the rest of Russia.

and see it as partially our responsibility to ensure that they fall to the forces of tyranny,

what? i hope that was a mistake...

and if such an agreement is signed, it will be done in some kind of conference - you don't just send these things off like some kind of application form to be signed - and the resulting agreement will be named after the place of signing. i suggest Moskva.

and why is Petrograd the officially recognized name? that isn't what Russia calls it, and it was only named that for 10 years for political purposes...

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 16:12

hmm, i didn't read the first post until after i read the 'pact', and i have some doubts...

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 16:16

My god. I'm sorry I didn't make it exactly like you want. Jesus. :/

Zubrov is a strong nationalist, who recognizes only the Russian name.

Those who are joint citizens may pass between countries without a visa, just proof of citizenship. It's not as uncommon as you make it sound.

And yes raja, that is a mistake. I will fix it.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 16:20

Oh, and the other post was to add some action to the O.P.S.C. front.

And I honestly don't care if you have doubts. It doesn't really violate anything, and I planned on doing it for a long time, if nobody thought of anything else for China. Technically, the entire O.P.S.C. government isn't destroyed, because there is still regional governments, and I wasn't trying to wipe out the O.P.S.C., although that may happen.

It's just another storyline. If you don't like it, well... I don't really care too much. I'm sorry you don't like it, I'm trying to spice up the storyline.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 16:22

And if you don't like parts of the treaty, why doesn't Mustafa propose a meeting to discuss it, in Moscow?
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-06-18, 17:05

actually, i read that when i was suffering a massive migraine, so don't take what i wrote seriously (about the OPSC, not the treaty Smile )

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-18, 17:46

cool. Anyhow, my comments still stand. Propose a meeting to further discuss the treaty/comprimise/pact.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Aeraaa on 2008-06-19, 09:52

I want to write something, but I think I've stayed behind in the events. Can anyone tell me the situation in Eastern Europe (where are the forces of the opponents timelines etc?)
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-19, 13:31

write about the occupation of Eastern Europe. Maybe, if Sel let's you, write about the Rodchenko situation.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-06-22, 09:53

Oo, combat footage! Nice!

What game is that from Aeraaa?

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-22, 11:19

Hey Aeraaa - after the war in Russia is totally over, will your character fly over to the U.N./E.U. front?

Nice photos!

no Siberian tigers Sad
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by sipahioftheporte on 2008-06-22, 15:33

hehhe nice post aeraa... it was fun to read it:)
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Aeraaa on 2008-06-22, 16:08

Thanks for the comments guys! Very Happy

@Sel: The game is called Frontlines-Fuel of war. I havent played it, but I've seen the screenshots of it and the background and weaponry looks EXACTLY like the one in our story, so I found it a good idea to put some pictures into the 2080 thread.

@Alex: I guess so, though I think I wont use the same character. But I want to stay involved in the story one way or another.

PS:Siberian Tigers arent an easy unit to be found in Euronews, thats why they arent in any of the screenshots (plus the fact that I couldnt find any cool unit to represent them...)
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-22, 18:46

You could always join Murmansk Sunset in our mission to bring about global utopia.
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Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-22, 19:06

There's always been confusion about Murmansk Sunset's goals, and it's dream of global utopia. (Yes, that was it's dream) I hope this clears it up. I posted it into the start of the 2080 story too, btw, but everybody will see it here.



Summary of the Murmansk Sunset New World Order Plan:

The long-term goal of Murmansk Sunset is global domination. Without the entire world under our control, the plan will be both impractical, far more costly, and will fail.

This will be achieved through a few steps.

1: An unmatchable underground network. This network must be vast and unstoppable. It must have almost unlimited resources and be able to launch any mission required of it. We must have sleeper cells capable of staging coup díetats at a momentís notice.

2: Widespread destruction and chaos. Random terror attacks, elimination of government ministers, to be replaced with our pawns. People will believe the old governments can no longer protect them. The first step of this was the Orange Death.

2. The takeover of all world governments. This must be subtle at first, until enough of the world is under our control or our enemies are too weak or divided to defeat us. The Orange Death began causing this. However, our plan failed, because the P.S.S.A. cured the virus. We were forced to create a nation, which was too easily destroyed by a European Union, which was not as weak as we wanted.

3. The creation of a nation. This part of the plan was rushed due to the curing of the Orange Death. We lost, and suffered a setback. Next time we cannot be as hasty.

4. This nation must appear to be the only stable nation, in part because of our terrorist strikes. The people will see that Murmansk Sunset is the best solution, through a combination of common sense and propaganda.

After the entire world is under our control, the plan is this:

1: Cheap contraceptives and abortions, available to everybody. This will lower the earthís population dramatically, cutting population growth rates to zero. (As is already happening among the rich in western countries) The Orange Death has also done its part well. It lowered the Earthís population down dramatically. Further man-made diseases, smaller in scope, will continue to due so until an ideal population of 2 billion to 1 billion is reached.

2: The mechanization of all hard manual labor, leaving humanity free to explore sports, the arts, and science.

3: A crime rate of zero will be made possible with brainwashing techniques on the disobedient.

4: Corporate enterprises designed to restore the planet to its original pristine shape, and to colonize other worlds.

5: Selective interbreeding between races so as to eliminate race within 1000 years.

With minimal government interference, mankind will then be able to prosper indefinitely.


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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-22, 19:17

Remember, the average person wouldn't see this, just the upper echelons of Murmansk Sunset.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-30, 07:01

The European equivilent to the CIA and MI6 is the EIN, right?
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Aeraaa on 2008-06-30, 07:57

Never heard of it
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-06-30, 08:09

Oh well. I can always edit it later if sel corrects me.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-06-30, 08:16

Yeah, I've called it EIN in the story (European Intelligence Network). It's actually a network of smaller intelligence agencies (such as MI6) on national or multinational levels, under central EU coordination.

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