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Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-01, 13:48

Yeah, but that makes it look like one of those staged "happy moments" when you see two politicans smiling for the cameras.
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Post by Kasey on 2008-03-01, 13:50

8th may ok?
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Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-01, 13:52

True. It's like a quaint bright happy moment in the middle of all the wars and intrigue. But in reality, the wars and intrigue are ever-present underneath the surface.

Ok Kasey. Langevin should respond when he gets back from Malta, in the 11th. It will be a short post (I hope I can write it tomorrow) before the attack in Finland.

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Post by sipahioftheporte on 2008-03-01, 15:47

that is such a nice drawing! you even included perspective in it! brilliant! did you do it by pen or by mouse?
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Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-01, 15:55

I initially did it with a pencil, but when it came time to colour it I couldn't do it well enough on that small scale. So I scanned it as a black and white image (so all the realistic-y shadows and shades of grey were gone, but I had a smooth enough surface to work with) and painted in by mouse. I'm glad you like it!

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-01, 16:29

great post sel, and that's an awersum drawing! the cartoony style just works Smile

@kasey, do you view Quebec as part of the UN, or is it actually part of the UN - because on the map it's independent.

also, if you guys are going to be fighting a war there all you really need to do is take over Quebec City and Montreal, once you have those the rest of the province/country will collapse. so it's really going to be a battle for those two southern cities Smile

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-01, 16:47

I picture Quebec as more of an old-style UN member. It's formally part of the UN but has its own government and military. Now that the UN has changed, that arrangement cannot last. Quebec will either seek protection in an alliance or a union with the EU or it will be absorbed militarily by the UN.

At present the EU is planning a full scale attack in Finland, so it's the worst time for a crisis in Quebec. Whatever help it will provide will be covert or diplomatic, until it has the means to challenge the UN in America or elsewhere. I'm thinking of secretly deploying the Foreign Legion there. It will be missed as an elite reserve in the great battles to come in the eastern front, but it should convince the government of Quebec that a defense against an attempted UN takeover is feasible.

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Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-01, 17:29

i'll try to do a post on sentiments about the Malta Treaty - which we did sign - and maybe get these war games rolling Smile

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-01, 17:44

Once Sel posts, I've got one post about the response to the invasion of Finland June 1-3rd, but then I'd like premission to jump the storyline to mid-month, about the 17-18th. Is that okay? Just because 15 or so days is more than we usually do for a jump.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-01, 18:03

I was planning on posting about the developments about a week after my invasion of Finland, depending on your response, which would be around June 5th-10th. After that you can jump ahead to the 17-18th, although I imagine you'll probably want to post a response first.

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-01, 18:06

k, mine will just be a short one (May 11) followed by a more lengthy one for about June 12-15 (which just deals with War Games, and some extra stuff w/ Mustafa II)

@sel, just remembered that you called Mustafa II Khalif as well as Amir Mu'mannin - you only have to use one since they're synonymous (Amir Mu'mannin means 'leader of the faithful' and was the title that the Khalif - or at least one dynasty of them - used Smile) i think you should get rid of the amir bit, since western audiences would only understand Khalif. but of course it doesn't really matter...

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Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-01, 18:09

Ok. I was just wondering how a news reporter in Europe would call him. It didn't come out right. I'll change it.

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-01, 18:37

Seleukos of Olympia wrote:I was planning on posting about the developments about a week after my invasion of Finland, depending on your response, which would be around June 5th-10th. After that you can jump ahead to the 17-18th, although I imagine you'll probably want to post a response first.

This will work.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Kasey on 2008-03-02, 02:20

Yeah, Quebec can no longer remain aloof of world events, it must seek the protection of the EU or UN or risk having the choice taken from it.

However the UN would be VERY against EU possessions on North America, so that is why Sykes is trying to intimidate the Quebecans.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 05:38

Quebecois!!! Quebecois!!!!!

Quebecan? thou art a philistine!!!! let us rid thy planet of thy great mistake, the united nations is a farce - clear the planet of their mess!!!

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-02, 05:39

Kasey - I've been thinking a little about the U.N. and it's postition in the world.

Firstly, after India falls, the only overseas posession of the U.N. will be increasingly poor and trbialized Africa.

The point of this? When the U.N. seems to be falling apart, due to the lack of member states, I would change the format of the U.N.

It could be name the U.N.N.A. or the United Nations of North America. Obviously, in order to claim this title, you would need to defeat the United States of America and unite Mexico and Canada with you, but those are not unrealistic goals.

Just a thought of what you could do in the long term.

About the Quebec crisis:

One thing nobody has thought of is the other nations in North America Canada and Mexico would probably remain non-allied, but the U.S. could be convinced to join the E.U. or be convinced not to do anything.

I could write a short post about the current state of the United States of America, and make it a dipolmatic option in the 2080 world.
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Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 05:39

btw, if you EVER call them Quebecans, they will move EN MASSE to the side of the EU - who will call them the proper Quebecois!!!

so just DONT do it kasey!! Smile

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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-02, 05:41

Raja, it seems I split up your post.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-02, 05:53

Say it Kasey! You know you want to! Very Happy

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Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-02, 06:11

What do people think of my ideas?
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 06:22

to rename yourself the UNNA automatically removes global legitimacy...

just my opinion Smile

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Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-02, 06:30

And what global legitimacy to they have at this point anyways?

Staying in India and Africa isn't for the good of those people, it's for the good of the U.N. if the people of 2080 can't see that, they're all idiots. The only true U.N. was the one which dissovled some sixty years ago.

But I digress.

I was talking more about the America thing. What do you think of me taking on the role of President of the United States of America? Get out there and vote! A vote for Alexios is a vote for change!

The U.S. seems to have been overlooked. They would still have a decent if pretty outdated army and could alter the balance of power.

I'm thinking, however, that at the end of all this, they will be annexed by the U.N., and become another unhappy member state.
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Re: 2080 Discussion thread

Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 06:34

yay alexios!!

continue the trend of taking on other states!!!

it shall be more interesting, destroy the UN!!

dougay trouen!

l'orient!

ville de paris!!

bucentaure!!

i'll give you a mass cookie if you can tell me what the last three lines had in common!!!

(yayayaya for what random drunkeness bringeth forth!!!)

Very Happy:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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Post by Alexios Komnenos on 2008-03-02, 06:36

You're drunk at 8:34 in the morning?
Ah well, I guess it's five o'clock somewhere.

I'm only saying that I'll have a limited role as President of the U.S. I promise I will not use this to further Murmansk Sunset's ambitions around the world.
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Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 06:45

actually, i meant that i was going to take over the new Iranian/utopian state - thus multiple roles!

and yes, it's bloody 630 am - FUCKYOU!

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Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-02, 07:25

I like the idea of the USA being active in the affairs of their continent. For the UN to change their name would mean giving up their claim to global leadership, so I think it should only be done if it goes on the defensive and chooses to cultivate an American nationalism within its American territories in order to further its goals.

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Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 07:30

wah?!?! sel, doth thee not want a mass cookie?!?!

surely you could answer my 2080 quiz!?!?!?!?!

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Post by Seleukos of Olympia on 2008-03-02, 08:14

A mass cookie you say??

If I remember my Imperial Glory facts right, Bucentaure was a ship in the French navy during the Napoleonic Wars. I seem to remember L'Orient as a ship's name from that era too, so I'd wager Ville de Paris was another famous French ship of the line in the 18th or early 19th century.

Edit: Wikipedia reveals that they were all French flagships, and all ultimately captured or sunk by the British.

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Post by Raja Sagan the Caker on 2008-03-02, 08:23

YAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!

sel understood (or discovered through wiki - grrr!!) my random burst of annoying trivia!!

mass cookie for sel!!! Very Happy

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